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Baek Doo San FAQ 3.0 (7/30/01)
Written by columbo
adoh@earthlink.net
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Table of contents
1) Legal Issues
2) Introduction
3) Bio
4) Why Baek?
5) Conventions
6) Move List
7) Frame Data
8) Some Moves In Depth
9) Wave Dash
10) Strategies
11) Combos
12) Vs.Strategies
13) Contributions
14) Partner Suggestions
15) Credits
16) Version History
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1) Legal Issues
You may not reproduce, sell, or distrubute this faq without my concent.
You can however print this guide for your own personal use.
Tekken, Tekken2, Tekken3, Tekken Tag Tournament are registered
copyrights of Namco 1998, 1999, 2000.
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2) Introduction
This is my first FAQ so i hope it's detailed and helpful. I have
been playing with Baek for quite some time now, IMO he is good
character to learn and master. The reason I decided to write this
FAQ is due to the balant lack of information on Baek, so low and
behold my knowledge of the Tae Kwon Do master himself.
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3) Bio
Baek Doo San "Killing Hawk"
Country of Origin: South Korea
Fighting Style: Tae Kwon Do
Age: 27
Height: 5'11
Weight: 154 lbs
Blood Type: B
Occupation: Martial Artist
Hobby: Skydiving
Likes: Memories of His Father
Appearences: Tekken 2, Tekken Tag Tournament
Baek's father was one of the foremost experts of Tae Kwon Do. During his
childhood, he learnt the ways of this martial art and won many tournaments
until an injury forced him to quit the sport. This lead Baek's family into
terrible poverty and angered Baek. This rage towards his families dissention
caused Baek to kill his father after a furious arguement. Grieving and full
of remorse, Baek was taken into police custody where he spent most of his
childhood. During this time, his Tae Kwon Do skills became legendary as he
became totally focussed on his fighting prowess; wishing to honour his father.
After 3 years, he fled the police home and took to the streets becoming a pit
fighter of great strength and a firm audience favourite; striking his opponents
again and again to see them reduced to a bloodied mess. Tracked by a secret
organisation aware of his past, Baek was coaxed into the assassination of the
owner of a property wanted by the group; a certain Marshall Law. Baek was only
partly sucessful and enters the second tournament to finish his task and destroy
Law!
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4) Why Baek?
With over 30 characters to choose from, why should I choose Baek?
For the most part, Baek has been greatly improved upon since his debut
in Tekken 2. He's a much more well rounded character, he can mix up his
punch attacks as well his as kicks now. Baek can be efficent on the
offensive or defensive because of his long range and quick attacks.
Strength:
He's Evasive, he can easily go into Flamingo Stance and processes good side
stepping tatics. He has a Class 1 Launcher from crouch dash, parries, good
speed and power and long range.
Weakness:
He can become predictable, he doesn't take damage too well and some of his
moves come out slow. No other real weakness that can be exploited.
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5) Conventions
1 - Left Punch
2 - Right Punch
3 - Left Kick
4 - Right Kick
5 - Tag
f - forward d/f - down/forward
b - backwards d/b - down/back
d - down u/f - up/forward
u - up u/b - up/back
F - Hold forward D/F - Hold down/forward
B - Hold back D/B - Hold down/back
D - Hold down U/F - Hold up/forward
U - Hold up U/B - Hold up/back
N - neutral
FC - full crouch animation WS while standing up
WS - While Standing
WR - While Running
BK - Back facing the opponent
SS - Sidestep (u,N or d,N)
KD - Knockdown
LINKING AND SPECIAL CONVENTIONS:
+ - Moves must be done together
, - Perform right after the other
~ - Perform IMMEDIATELY after the other
> - Slight delay after the '>'
_ - Or (When used between two moves, they are interchangeable)
# - Hold movement preceeding the '#' until end of string or until N
[] - Brackets surrounding an item indicate an optional output
() - Parenthesis indicates moves grouped together
{} - Curved brackets indicate buttons needed to break a throw
CH - Counter Hit (hit 1+2+3+4 to excute)
EXTRA COMBO CONVENTIONS:
WGF - Wind Godfist (f,N,d,d/f+2)
EWGF - Electric Wind Godfist (f,N,d,D/F~2)
TGF - Thunder Godfist (f,N,d,d/f+1)
big - Can only be done on big characters
cc - Crouch Cancel (tap u during crouch)
iWS - Instant WS (d~d/b_d~d/f+button)
(,) - The hit in parenthesis misses during the combo
HIT LEVELS:
l - hits low (block d/b)
m - hits mid (block b)
h - hits high (block b or duck)
L - hits low and grounded opponents (block d/b)
M - hits mid and grounded opponents (block b)
H - hits high and grounded opponents (block b or duck)
Sm - hits special mid (block d/b or b)
! -unblockable hit
<!> - unblockable hit which can be ducked
{!} - unblockable hits grounded opponents
*!* - unblockable hits big grounded opponents
" - indicates block point in string hits
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6) Move List
Here is the complete official movelist for Baek with commands, damage
and hit levels in TTT, courtesy of Tekken Zaibatsu. If something is incorrect
or if I have left out something, please E-mail me about it.
THROWS:
Input Position Move Name Damage Escape
1+3 Front Hammer Head 30 1
2+4 Front Blue Shark Claw 30 2
D/B+1+3 Front Swordfish Catch 30 1+2
f,f+2 Front Cobra Bite 30 2
F+2+3 [~5] Front Human Cannonball* 30 2
(1+3_2+4_2+5) [~5] Left Snake Revenge 40 1
(1+3_2+4_2+5) Right Hunting Serpent 40 2
(1+3_2+4_2+5) Back Starfish Throw 50 n/a
Note: Human Cannonball is a special tag throw with Hwoarang only. Hwoarang
finishes with a Neck Snapper. Total damage is 10,25.
SPECIAL ATTACKS:
Input Move Name Range
1,1 Twin Jabs' hh
1,2 Double Punch' hh
* 3,[~f_~b] High Kick [Flamingo] h
* 3,4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket [tag] hlm
* 3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh
* 3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle hhml
* 3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow [Flamingo] hhhmh
* 3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh
b+1 Stealth Needle' m
SS+1 Lace Hammer m
2,2 Mantis Backhand Spin' hh
b+2 Bolt Cut' h
f+2 Mantis Backhand' h
U/F+2 Bone Stinger h
f,N,d,d/f+3 [~5] Wing Blade [tag] m
3,4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket' [tag] JG
3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks' hhmh
3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle' hhml
3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow [Flamingo] hhhmh
3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh
WS+3,3<4 Wave Needle hml
WS+3,4<4,3 [~f_~b] Eliminator [Flamingo] hhmh
WS+3,4<4<4,3 Hurricane hhmhh
(WR_f,f,f)+3 Leaping Slash Kick m
U/F,N Baek Hop n/a
* 3,4 Trick Smash hh
* 3,d+4<3 [~5] Starlight Blade [tag] hlm
* 3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh
* 3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle hhml
* 3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow' [Flamingo] hhhmh
* 3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh
(FC_d)+3,3,d+3 Snake Creep' LLL
(FC_d)+3,3,N+3 [~5] Snake Blade' [tag] LLm
f,f+3 Hunting Axe m
U/F+3,4,3 Hunting Hawk mmh
U/F+3+4_3+4 [f_b] Flashing Halberd [FS] hh
f,f+4 Hammer Heel M
b+4 Heel Lance' m
d/b+4 Heel Axe M
4<4 Tsunami Kick' hm
f+4<3 [f_b] Heel Knife [Flamingo] mm
f+4,4,3 Triple Threat mhh
WS+4<4<3 [f_b] Albatross' [Flamingo] mmm
WS+4<4<4,3 Flame Hawk' mmhh
D/F+4~4<3 [f_b] Albatross' [Flamingo] mmm
D/F+4~4<4,3 Flame Hawk' mmhh
(FC_d)+4,3,3,3 [f_b] Baek Rush' [Flamingo] lmmm
(FC_d)+4,3,3,d+3 Baek Needle' lmml
b+3 Flamingo Stance n/a
b+1+2 [~B] Punch Parry' [Flamingo] n/a
D/B+3+4 [b,b] Heel Explosion' [cancel] !
FLAMINGO STANCE ARTS:
Input Move Name Range
f,f Flamingo Steppin n/a
b,b Flamingo Back Dash n/a
(u_d) Flamingo Side Step n/a
2~3 [~5] Human Cannonball [tag] throw
b+3 Head Crusher m
(D/B_d_d/f)+3 Maha Needle l
3,3,4 Flamingo Wave Needle mml
3,4,4,3 [f_b] Flamingo Eliminator [FS] mhmm
3,4,4,4,3 Flamingo Hurricane mhmhh
Baek can cancel the Flamingo Stance into some of his regular moves. If you
are looking to cancel into a Punch or Right Kick attacks you can just input
the proper command. It gets a little trickier if you want to cancel into Left
Kick attacks or Double Kick attacks. In order to do this you have to keep
holding down Left Kick as you go into Flamingo. For the chart below lets assume
you did F+1,2,3 to go into Flamingo and you are now holding Forward and Left Kick.
Input Move Name Range
4,(release 3),4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket [tag] hlm
4,(rel. 3),3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh
N+4 [f_b] Flashing Halberd [Flamingo] hh
d+4,(rel. 3),3,d+3 Snake Creep LLL
d+4,(rel. 3),3,N+3 [~5] Snake Blade [tag] LLm
D/B+4 Heel Explosion {!}
Note: * = New Move Added.
Note: ' = This move can be done out of the Flamingo.
Note: [Flamingo] = Going into Flamingo Stance cancels the last hit.
Note: [tag] = Can be followed with a tag combo.
STRINGS:
Input Move Name Range
4,3,3,4,3,3,3,4,3,4 Tenstring#1 h"h"lmmm"hmlm
4,3,4,3,3,3,3,3,4,3 Tenstring#2 h"h"hl"mmm"lm{!}
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7) Frame Data
A frame is an animation taking place during 1/60 of a second during
a fight. Tekken Tag Tournament runs at 60 fps (frames per second) or
60Hz, which is in fact almost twice as fast as normal television
(TV runs at 32 frames)! PAL TTT runs at 50 fps or 50Hz btw, which makes
WD, CD, Crazy Legs, look weird. In TTT, attacks give you a certain frame
advantage and disadvantage in certain situations.
Most moves with a disadvantage of 8 or less can be considered safe
moves as it takes at least 8 for your opponent to execute a standard
jab and in some cases your opponent will not even be within jab range
and you have to add on whatever amount of frames it take for him to
dash within hitting range. Eddy has to ability to shorten recovery
time after certain moves with Sidestep or Recover Crouching cancels.
Each of the Frame Data List columns contain specific move information.
F Hit Column:
Indicates how many frames it takes for a move to hit after you have
finished the command. This does NOT included the number of frames it
takes to input the command.
B Adv Column:
The number of frame advantage or disadvantage when the move is blocked.
Meaning the amount of frames it takes before you can input a new
command. Positive numbers are advantages over your opponent, negative
numbers indicate a disadvantage and KD indicates the opponent gets
knocked down. This can either be a juggle, stun or any other kind of
knockdown.
H Adv Column:
The number of frame advantage or disadvantage on a hit. Keep in mind a
hit does not necessarily results in an advantage over the opponent.
Frame advantage on stagger moves reflects the amount of stagger frames,
this does not equal the number of frames your opponent cannot block
attacks.
CH Adv Column:
The number of frame advantage or disadvantage on a Counter-Hit. Keep
in mind a Counter-Hit does not necessarily results in an advantage over
the opponent.
THROWS:
Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv
1+3 12 x x x
2+4 12 x x x
f,f+2 12 x x x
d/b+1+3 12 x x x
f+2+3 12 x x x
SPECIAL ATTACKS:
Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv
1,1 10 x 0 +1 +9 +9 +10 +12
1,2 10 x 0 -2 +9 +11 +10 +9
*3,(f_b) x 0 +12 +10
*3,4<3 x x x -14 -10 -20 -3 0 KD -3 0 KD
*3,3,3,4 x x x x -14 -14 -19 -14 -3 -3 -8 KD -3 -3 -8 KD
*3,3,3,d+4 x x x x -14 -14 -19 -8 -3 -3 -8 +16 -3 -3 -8 +16
*3,3,4<4<3 x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD
*3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -8 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3
*3,3,4<4<4,3 x x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 -3 +5 +7 KD KD
b+1 15 -7 +4 +6
SS+1 14 -7 +9 +9
2,2 10 x 0 -13 +9 -2 +9 -2
b+2 13 -7 +9 KD
f+2 17 -13 -2 -2
U/F+2 26 +7 +6 +14
f,N,d,D/F+3 23 -20 KD KD
3,4<3 14 x x -14 -10 -20 -3 0 KD -3 0 KD
3,3,3,4 14 x x x -14 -14 -19 -14 -3 -3 -8 KD -3 -3 -8 KD
3,3,3,d+4 14 x x x -14 -14 -19 -8 -3 -3 -8 +16 -3 -3 -8 +16
3,3,4<4<3 14 x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD
3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) 14 x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -8 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3
3,3,4<4<4,3 14 x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 -3 +5 +7 KD KD
WS+3,3<4 16 x x -16 -19 -8 0 -8 +16 +5 -8 +16
WS+3,4<4,3 16 x x x -16 -6 -4 -14 0 +5 +7 -3 +5 +5 +7 KD
WS+3,4<4<4,3 16 x x x x -16 -6 -4 -11 -2 0 +5 +7 -2 KD +5 +5 +7 KD KD
(WR_f,f,f)+3 22 +17 KD KD
U/F,N x x x x
*3,4 29 x -16 -13 KD KD KD KD
*3,d+4<3 29 x x -16 -10 -20 KD 0 KD KD 0 KD
*3,3,3,4 29 x x x -16 -14 -19 -14 KD -3 -8 KD KD -3 -8 KD
*3,3,3,d+4 29 x x x -16 -14 -19 -8 KD -3 -8 +16 KD -3 -8 +16
*3,3,4<4<3 29 x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -14 KD -3 +5 +7 -3 KD -3 +5 +7 KD
*3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) 29 x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -8 KD -3 +5 +7 +3 KD -3 +5 +7 +3
*3,3,4<4<4,3 29 x x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 KD -3 +5 +7 -2 KD KD -3 +5 +7 KD KD
(FC_d)+3,3,d+3 16 x x -14 -19 -17 -3 -9 -3 -3 -9 -3
(FC_d)+3,3,N+3 16 x x -14 -19 -15 -3 -9 KD -3 -9 KD
u/f+3,4,3 28 x x -6 +7 x KD KD KD KD KD KD
3+4 16 x x -12 -13 KD -11 KD
f,f+4 20 -19 KD KD
b+4 16 -3 +11 +11
d/b+4 17 -2 +6 KD
4<4 11 x -4 -4 +7 +8 +28 +7
f+4<3 19 x -3 -14 +8 -3 +8 KD
f+4,4,3 19 x x -3 -10 -2 +8 -1 KD +8 KD KD
WS+4<4<3 11 x x -3 -15 -14 +8 -4 -3 +8 -4 KD
WS+4<4<4,3 11 x x x -3 -15 -9 -2 +8 -4 -1 KD +8 +4 KD KD
D/F+4~4<3 12 x x -4 -4 -14 +7 -4 -3 +7 +7 KD
D/F+4~4<4,3 12 x x x -4 -4 -11 -2 +7 -4 -2 KD +7 +7 KD KD
(FC_d)+4,3,3,3 12 x x x -8 -14 -20 -19 -3 -3 -20 -8 -3 -3 -20 -4
(FC_d)+4,3,3,d+3 12 x x x -8 -14 -20 -25 -3 -3 -20 -14 -3 -3 -20 -14
FLAMINGO ARTS:
Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv
b+3 15 -10 0 0
(d/b_d_d/f)+3 11 -14 -3 -3
3,3,4 15 x x -14 -19 -8 -3 -8 +16 -3 -8 +16
3,4,4,3 15 x x x -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD
3,4,4,4,3 15 x x x x -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 +5 +7 KD KD
UNBLOCKABLE ATTACKS:
Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv
D/B+3+4 61 x KD KD
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8) Some Moves In Depth
What would a move list be without a explaination on how to use them?
I'll give you the usefulness of Baek's most efficent moves and how
effective they are.
THROWS:
Input Position Move Name Damage Escape
1+3 Front Hammer Head 30 1
2+4 Front Blue Shark Claw 30 2
Pretty average front throws, there are basically good for quick easy
damage on wiffed moves. But not recommended on advanced players because
these throws are easily escaped with 1 button.
Input Position Move Name Damage Escape
D/B+1+3 Front Swordfish Catch 30 1+2
One of Baek's better throws because not only does it look cool it
requires 2 buttons to escape so it's safer to land.
SPECIAL ATTACKS:
Input Move Name Damage
b+3 Flamingo Stance n/a
Great evasive move, also has SSR property.
Input Move Name Damage
1,1 Twin Jabs 5,8
Quick 2 hit jab combo, gives you a +9 frame advantage.
Input Move Name Damage
f,N,d,D/F+3~5 Wing Blade 25
Great launcher, works on big characters too. Safe move to throw out
because it pushes your opponent back when blocked.
Input Move Name Damage
3,4<3~5 Launching Rocket 15,8,25
Another decent launcher, sorta a varation of the Wing Blade.
Input Move Name Damage
b+1 Stealth Needle 17
A great move to use if your opponent likes to SS a lot. Has priority
over most moves, and Baek SSR during this move.
Input Move Name Damage
U/F+3,4,3 Hunting Hawk 15,14,25
Very similar to Hwoarang's own Hunting Hawk. Use this if your opponent
is too far to to be hit with anything else.
Input Move Name Damage
(FC_d)+4,3,3,3[~f_~b] Baek's Rush (10_7),10,15,25
This is a good okizeme move. Decent poke attack when you cancel it into FS.
Input Move Name Damage
f+4<3[~f_~b] Heel Knife 22,10
Decent move if your playing keep away, a little slow so don't use it
in-close.
Input Move Name Damage
(FC_d)+3,3,d+3 Snake Creep 12,7,7
Good move for okizeme and mix up attacks since it hits LLL.
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9) Wave Dash
Yes it's true, Baek can wave dash. Refined and perfected by
the Koreans this technique is very effective if done properly,
it's advantage is that you it gives you extra speed to pitbull
and to put pressure on your opponent.
For those who don't what I am referring to, a wavedash is basically
a crouch dash cancelled into another crouch dash until it forms a
fast movement of short crouch dashes. Wave dashing is also used in
very high levels of tournament play.
The wave dash goes as follows:
f,N,d,df,f,N,f,N (repeat).
Never WD just for the sake of closing in space between you and your
opponent, most likely you'll get a foot in your face for your trouble.
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10) Strategies
FLAMINGO STANCE:
Keep in mind that the Flamingo Stance is very useful because you can
quickly sidestep attacks with it. This move can get you out of alot of
trouble, it's very evasive. Here are some moves that you can do when
your in the Flamingo Stance.
Eliminator
Twin Jabs
Butterfly Kicks
Albatross
Snake Creep
FLAMINGO SIDESTEPS:
Unfortunately Baek only has one Flamingo Stance (Left) so that means he can
only double sidestep to the right. When you do b+3 you can do another SSR
(Input d when facing right or u when facing left) and this leaves you with
many options.
b+4
b+1
b+2
D/F+1
d+1
f+1, D/F+2
F+[2]~3
FS 3,3,4
CHICKENING:
If your facing a opponent who's a reverse scrub, learn how to chicken or
you will be losing a lot of matches. If your new to Tekken, a chicken is
the art of reversing a reverse. For example: if Baek throws a Right Punch
(2) at Paul, he can reverse my attack (b+1+3), then I can reverse his reverse
(f+2+4). This is all good on paper, but in reality unless you have tiger
like relexes you won't be quick enough to chicken it.
This is where chicken buffering comes into play, let's say when I press 2, I
can hold 2 just incase my attack gets reversed. Then if it is reversed all
I have to press is f+4.
TAGGING:
Tagging is the basic structure of TTT, at some point you must switch characters
in order to survive (doh!). But there are diffirent ways to tag out.
The first way to tag out is a tag throw. Normal tag throws are done with 2+5,
but certain characters have special tag throws that are only done with a
specific character. For example, Baek's Human Cannonball tag throw is only
done with Hwoarang and vice versa. This is a good way to get your partner in
without taking any damage.
The second and most basic way to tag out is after you have been knocked down
or juggled and your just getting up. Most players tend to use this method which
can be risky, a deathfist, EWGF, or a nasty unblockable can leave your incoming
partner with 30% life left.
The third and final way to tag out is during a tag juggle. This is the most
safe way to tag out, plus it looks cool and the damage on a tag juggle can't
be recovered.
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11) Combos
Here is the complete combo list for Baek, once again courtesy of Tekken
Zaibatsu. If something is incorrect or if I have left out something, please
E-mail me about it.
STANDARD COMBO ARTS
Starters: d/f+2_class 2 tag
1, d+3,3,N+3 1,2,(f+3h), 4,3,3,d+4
1, 4,4 1,2,(f+3), 1, d+4,3
1, 4,3,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1, f,N,d,D/F,f+4,4
1, d+1, WS+4,4 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3
d+1, WS+3.4 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3,N+3
d+1, WS+3,3,4 1,2,(f+3), 4,3,(3),4
D/F+1, 1, 3+4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+2
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3
1, 1,2,(f+3), 2,2 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4
1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4
1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4
1, 1, d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
1, 1, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4,4
1, 1, 4,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4
1, 1, 1,2,(3),4 f+3,3,3,4
1, 1, 1, D/B+4 3+4, d+4,3,3
1, 1, 1, f+4 d+4,3,(3),3
1, 1, 1, 1,1 4, 3+4, d+4
1, 1, 1, 1, f,f+4 4, d+4,3,3
1, 1, 1, 1, 3+4 b+4, d+4,3,3
1,2, 1,2,(3),4 4,3,(3),4,3
1,2,(3),4,3
LAUNCHING ROCKET & SNAKE BLADE COMBO ARTS
Starter: 1,2,3,4,3_3,4,3_d+3,3,N+3_class 2 tag
b+1, d+4,3,(f+3), D/B+4
d/f+2, d+4
3,3,(4),4
4,(3),3,4,3,3
BUTTERFLY KICKS STUN COMBO ARTS
Starter: 1,2,3,3,3,4_3,3,3,4_U/F,N+3,3,3,4
d+1, WS+3+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), b+2
d+1, WS+3,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1, f,N,d,D/F,f+4,4
d+1, WS+3,3,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3
d+1, WS+4,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
d+1, cc, 1, 3+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1
d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3
d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4
d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), 4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4
d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4
d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(3),4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
D/F+1, d+3,3,N+3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 2,2 f,N,d,d/f+3
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 d+3,3,N+3
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 3,4,3
D/F+1, 1, d+4,3,3 3,3,3,4
D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 d+4,3,3
D/F+1, 1, 1, D/B+4 D/B+4
D/F+1, 1, 1, f+4 f,f+4
D/F+1, 1, 1, 1,1 4,3,(3),4,3,3
D/F+1, 1, 1, 1, f,f+4 3+4 (big)
D/F+1, 1, 1, 1, 3+4
COUNTER HIT COMBO ARTS WAVE NEEDLE COMBO ARTS
Starter: Bold Cut: b+2 Starter: WS+3,3,4
d+3,3,N+3 U/F+3+4
D/B+4
d+4,3,3
f,f+4
HUNTING AXE COMBO ARTS
Starter: f,f+3
d+3,3,N+3
f,f+4
d+4,3,3
D/B+4
SILVER MANTIS & HURRICANE COMBO ARTS
Starter: 3,3,4,4,4,3_WS+3,4,4,4,3_d/f+4,4,4,3_Flamingo 3,4,4,4,3
1,2,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4
1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4
1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4
1,2,(f+3), 4,4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2
1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 f+3,(3),3,4
1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 3+4, d+4,3,3
1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 d+4,3,3
1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4
WING BLADE COMBO ARTS
Starter: f,N,d,D/F+3_class 1 tag
any Standard Combo b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4
any Snake Blade Combo b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2
u/f+3,4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(3),4
u/f+3,4, d+4,3,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3
b+4, d+1, WS+4,4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
b+4, 1,2,(3),4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3
b+4, 1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 4,4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 4,4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2
b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 BT 4, BT 4
CLASS 1 TAG COMBO ARTS CLASS 4 TAG COMBO ARTS
Starter: view class 1 tag Starter: view class 4 tag
any Wing Blade Combo d+3,3,N+3
D/B+4
d+4,3,3
f,f+4
JUGGLES:
I am only going to list Baek's most effective juggles. Baek's isn't just
about fancy juggles, without knowing how to set them up, they are useless.
I've taken a few juggles from Catlord's TTT COMBO COMPENDIUM.
D/F+2,
d+1, FC+3,3,N+3
b+4, d+4,3,3
3+4, d+4,3,3
1,2,3~F, F+4,3,{3},d+4
1,2,3#~F, d+4,3,3
1,2,3,3,{3},d+4
1,2,3~f,D/F+1,3+4
1,2,3~f,1,cd~4,4,3~f,B/D+4
D/F+1, 1,2,f+3, f+1, f,N,d,D/F+4,4
f,N,d,D/F+3,
b+4,d+3,3,N+3
f,f,BK 3,BK 4
3+4~F, d+3
3+4, d+4,3,3
f,f, BK 3, BK 4
1,2,3~f, 1,2, 3+4
f,f, BK 4, 4,4
u/f,N+3,3,{3},4
[3,4],3,
1,2,3~f,1,2,3~f,1,2,{3},4
3,3,[3],4
3,3,3,4
3,4,3
3+4, f,f, D/B+4
CD+3,
b+1, d+4,F#+3,3,3,D/B+4
3,4<3,
U/F+3+4, d+4,3,3
U/F+3+4, d+4,3,3,F#+3
[WS+3,3]4, U/F+3+4
CH b+1, D/F+3, b+4,3,4
CH D/F+1,2,1,2, D/F+3,1
TAG JUGGLES:
cd+3,5,b+4,f+3,1,ff+4,d+4,ff+3 (Done with Baek and Hwoarang)
INFINITES:
Baek's infinites are basically Flamingo Stance cancelable strings repeated
over and over. Remember don't abuse these infinites.
F#1,2,3, 1,2,3, 1,2,3 (repeat).
F#+1,2,3, d+4, F#+3,3,3, D/F+4,4,3 (repeat).
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12) Vs.Strategies
I am not going to go through every character in TTT with great detail,
just specific points you should know on how to win against a certain
character.
Alex/Roger:
This should be a easy fight, Alex/Roger definitly one of the weaker characters
in the game IMHO. Their moves do very little damage, they have limited range
and they have trouble juggling but they do process A.King's staple moves
except for the multi throws. The only thing you should worry about is his f,N,1,
when blocked they have a +41 frame advantage and they can follow up with a Animal
Godfist for 50% of damage (cheap).
Angel/Devil:
Definitly considered underrated when compared to the other Mishimas. Watch out
for Twin Pistons, sidestep the laser and follow up with Wing Blade into a decent
juggle. Also look out for the Devil Twister (SS+2), this is one of the best Class 1
Launchers in TTT. Other than that he's pretty easy to deal with since he's the most
basic of the Mishimas in terms of attacks.
Anna Williams:
Definitely a hard fight, she has to be one of the most improved characters since
Tekken 3. She has it all, reversals, quick recovery, parries, multi-throws, and a
lot more, but she does have weak stamina. In-close she can be deadly so good spacing
is the key to winning, use your long range to keep her at a distance, moves like
Butterfly Kicks or Bone Stinger can be useful here.
Armor King:
IMO he is a hard challenge if played correctly, supplied with quick hitting
moves and multi throws. His moves have a lot of priority from his crouch dash,
but the only moves from his CD you should be concered about are his Shadow Rising
Knee, Palm Upper and his Shadow Larait. His Palm Upper is a very good juggle
starter so beware, even though A.King is lacking in the juggle department.
Bruce Irvin:
This can be a easy or a hard fight on your hands, if your facing a decent bruce
player be prepared to be juggled. Most Bruce players usually go for the 3,2,1
into the Triple Knees Combo, or they can end the juggle with b+4,3,4 which takes
a lot of damage. But Bruce does have his weaknesses, for starters he has a limited
arsenal of moves and some of his moves comes out slow so you can easily sidestep
around them.
Bryan Fury:
Byran received very few moves since Tekken 3 but he is still deadly when it
comes to raw power. Look out for his Chains of Misery throw, it takes a lot of
damage and it requires 1+2 to escape, but Byran's biggest weakness is his lack of
low attacks. Nearly all of his attacks hit high or mid, with the exception of his
regular low kicks, Muay Thai low kicks and his Snake Edge sweep.
Eddy Gordo:
Since most TTT Eddy players are button mashing idiots, expect a lot of Slippery Kicks
mixed with Leg Whips and a throw every now and then. Against scrubs jump over their
Slippery Kicks and catch them with any move of your desire :). If you actually come
across a Eddy player who actually knows what their doing be prepared for the fight of
your life, I don't have any information of how to fend off a good Eddy player (because
I never fought one)
Forrest Law:
Law has been toned down since his debut in Tekken 3, his follow ups from his
dragon stance are weakened now and his Fake Step doesn't have as many options
as it did before. His poking game is still one of the best in TTT, he has a low
parry, a mid parry and a universal low parry so he can counter almost all of your
attacks. Since most Law players will be waiting for you to attack, confuse them
and go for a flamingo throw to mess up their game or buffer a chicken. But Law's
biggest disavantage is that he's predictable and he doesn't have any advanced
tactics he can rely on (ex: CD, WD, SD, HaHa) so use that to your advantage.
Ganryu:
Probably the best improved character since Tekken 2, he has the power of the
Jacks with the speed of the Changs. Ganryu has it all, damaging juggles, great
okizeme attacks, good poking moves and a confusing hi low game. A expert Ganryu
player can be a nightmare, he will overpower you if your not prepared. He also
has a short shoulder tackle which can go under your moves and a punch reversal
so WD or SS into flamingo stance and try and catch him with flamingo throws whenever
possible.
Gunjack:
The best overall Jack in TTT, supplied great stanima GunJack has power moves as well
as throws and is a decent juggler. Gun Jack's strength comes in his ability to
mix-up high, mid and low hitting moves effectivly, his okizeme attacks and rising
attacks are good as well. But his does has have a major disadvantage against
you, he is very slow.
Heihachi Mishima:
Of all the Mishimas Heihachi is probably the most balanced in terms of power
and moves. His hell sweeps have been toned down but is still damaging when used
in combos. His WGF and Twin Pistons are a pain as well, his Deathfist is quick,
the DGF can sneak under your attacks so look out for that. Not bad for a man who's
in his golden years.
Jack-2:
More or less similar to Gunjack but he has his differences. Upgraded with some new
sidestep moves but he lacks the low throw Gunjack has, he also has a lot of Gunjack's
throws and juggles. His low game isn't as good as Gunjack's but he can set you up
from his jab.
Jin Kazama:
Where do i start? Argubly the best character in TTT, Jin definitly has the advantage
over everyone else. His EWGF is faster and easier to pull off than Heihachi, he can
juggle the EWGF up to seven times in a row! also if his EWGF is blocked he has a +4
advantage. His Hell Sweeps can initate combos and can be a GUARANTEED knockdown at any
range. But like everyone else Jin does have his flaws, Jin lacks low hit attacks and he
has trouble fending off low attacks, so use Snake Creep or Snake Blade whenever there
is an opening.
Julia Chang:
In the right hands she can be very annoying indeed, her regular standing 1 jab is
the quickest in the game and it combos into the 1,1,2 and 1>1,1. Her D/F+4 is deadly
because it has a ton of range and it can be chained directly into the Mountain Crusher.
But Julia does lack a Class 1 Launcher, a decent juggle starter and good power hits.
Jun Kazama:
Jun is definitly a low tier character, Jun lacks just about everything. She has Pathetic
stanima, limited juggles, horrible recovery on her moves and no damaging moves. But she does
have a decent okizeme game and good custom strings but other than this fight is a breeze.
King:
This is a very hard match because King can reverse kicks and he can't be chickened when he
reverses them, watch out for his unblockables (Jaguar Lariat, Moonsault) because he has
no warning flash on the Jaguar Lariat and the Moonsault can be used as a surprise attack.
King isn't all about multi-throws and slow strings, he has one of the best poking games in
TTT, a good King player can comeback from a asskicking in a matter of seconds. Also King's
multi-throws have at least 2 enders each which means you can't just know the escapes and
automatically get out.
Kuma/Panda:
Kuma was considered a joke in Tekken 3 but with his new Hunting Stance and some powerful
juggles to boot, Kuma is to be taken seriously. He has very good reach with his standing
jabs, Kuma can also cause some confusion from his Hunting Stance although he doesn't use
a lot of kicks. Remember you can't trade hits with Kuma because you will lose everytime,
keep him at a distance and poke when he wiffs a move.
Kunimitsu:
She plays very similar to Yoshimitsu, but her attacks are slower and she doesn't take
damage too well. Kunimitsu is a "hit and run" character with a lot of quick pokes and
teleport moves. Remember Kunimitsu is only a treat when in-close so the best way to deal
with her is to have a strong defensive game.
Lei Wulong:
The master of confusion and animal stances, if you ever face a Lei master he can
make you make a multitude of mistakes through his stance changes and razor rush tatics.
Recently discovered by the Koreans, is the HaHa Step, Fox Step, HoHo Step, all of which
gives Lei incredible spacing. Don't be fooled by his Druken Master stance he can punch
parry from it as well as in his other stances and he can switch to any of his animal
stances through his razor rush. Lei by far is the deepest character in TTT, most Lei players
only use a fraction of his large arsenal so except Rave Sweeps, Flying Ankle Kicks, and
Lying Down attacks.
Lee Chaolan:
Lee finally receieved a complete movelist exclusive to him but he does shares a couple
of moves with Law but keep in mind that he plays very differently from Law. First of all,
Lee has some of the fastest kicks in TTT, his hitman stance can be difficult to deal with
since he can throw a good number of attacks from it. His Blazing Kick is a very good juggle
starter because it comes out and has a lot of priority.
Michelle Chang:
See Julia Chang.
Mokujin/Tetsujin:
Mokujin is a random select character, he has no exclusive moves and the only real
difference between him and the character he's mimicking is that all of their limbs
are now the length of his. For example, if he's mimicking any of the Jack's, his legs
will be longer, but arms shorter to match Mokujin's physique. Also Mokujin never mimics
Ogre, True Ogre or Unknown. When he tags in or out during a match he will automatically
switch the character he is mimicking.
Nina Williams:
Definitly the weaker sister this time around, she has been raped so badly in TTT it's
not even funny. For starters, her Devine Cannon has a -20 frame disadvantage, she has
been toned down so much that she's almost in the same tier with Jun.
Ogre/True Ogre:
Most people think Orge is a just a combination of all the best moves in Tekken 2, this
is true to an extent but Orge is very much his own character. His standing 4 has been set
to a fixed damage rate now, he has a new rising attack and a good SS power shot. His kick
strings have been tweaked as well he also has Kuma's bite as a attack reversal Ganryu's
Buffalo Horn and a low Tail Sweep. His flying teleport can be used to escape some juggles,
but he does have his weaknesses; Orge's size makes him a big target, yet he does move
faster than the rest of the large characters.
Paul Phoenix:
If you happen to be playing a deathfist scrub, SS and hit him with anything you please.
But if your playing a Paul expert he can give you a hard time. Phoenix smashers are rarely
used by advanced Paul players, they instead utilize his pokes, his Falling Leaf and low sweeps.
Fortunatly, Paul's age caught up with him, a lot of his moves come out slow and he is very
predictable.
Prototype Jack:
See Gunjack or Jack2.
Unknown:
Same as Mokujin in many ways, she has the ability to mimic other fighters but she can't
mimic large characters and she always starts off mimicking Jun. The only advantage she has
over Mokujin is that she can change characters without having to tag in or out.
Wang Jinrei:
Wang is basically a mix of Julia/Michelle with some of his own moves. He has most of
their pokes, unblockables and hi/low mix-ups. Play him as if you were playing the Changs,
watch out for his Power Palm and Elbow Rush which can do decent damage on a CH.
Yoshimitsu:
Very little changes have been made to Yoshimitsu since Tekken 3, his 2 poking moves
(left jab, right mid kick) have been slowed down to the point where they are easily
countered or SS. But Yoshi has gained a couple of noteworthy moves in they're place,
a swordtrust type move, headbutt out of the flea, and some new SS moves. Other than
that he's just about the same as his previous Tekken incarnations.
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13) Contributions
In this section I've asked some of the best Baek users across the states to share
their tatics on winning with Baek.
Telly Tel (www.phoenixsmasher.com)
I always do cd~4,4,3. Very useful move for duckers because if this first hits then
the rest is guarenteed, also you can flamingo cancel out of it making it more deadly
also good for okizeme too. Always and I mean always abuse the flamingo b+3 its the main
part of his game, what i do out of it is b+1 usually, but b+4, b+2, or f+2~3 works too
but you wanna abuse that as much as possible also try to mix up throws cuz when you
start getting them to duck you can use the cd~4,4,3 to hit your opponet.
Also abuse d/f+2 (best juggle starter) only good reliable starter and very good priority
off of d/f+2, 1,2,3f,1,cd~4,4, 3f,d/b+4 and also you can mix up the d/b+4 with the
buffered snake kicks for people that get straight up or roll back another good juggle
is d/f+2, 1,2,3f, d/f+1,3+4 very good too is his WD is like a mishima so if you can WD,
use the WD mix ups with the throws and the cd~4,4,3 also get used to the move buffering
it is very good for set ups for ex: 1,2,3 f you hold 3 press d+4 and release 3 and the
begining of the snake kicks comes out, then from that you are in crouch many moves can
come out from there.
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14) Partner Suggestions
Hwoarang:
This should be your #1 choice for a partner. First of all, they have great netsu when
paired together, they also have more combos and tag moves together. The Human Canonball
and Snake's Revenge are good tag throws and have decent damage. The only downside to this
team is the lack of any punch attacks, but since their both so evasive that shouldn't
really be a problem.
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15) Credits
I would like to thank the following people and websites, because without them this
FAQ wouldn't be possible.
Castel and everyone at Tekken Zaibatsu (http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/)
This is the ulitmate Tekken website in the world, if your just getting into Tekken or
if you have been a OG at it this is the place to go, they have the krunkest movies and
the latest Tekken information.
Tekken Zone (http://www.tekkenzone.com/)
If you wanna see some of the most amazing matches in Tekken check this site out. This
site got me started working on my FAQ.
GameFaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/)
The most faqs on the planet, if you need a movelist or information on a certain game
this is the place to go. They have every faq for nearly every game on every system.
Electric Cancel (http://www.electriccancel.com)
This is the place that really got me hooked on Tekken. Besides having some cool tournament
vidz, this is also a great place to hang out and meet friends.
Phoenix Smasher (http://www.phoenixsmasher.com)
For having such a pimpish site, norcal players = are cool. NY still rocks though (eheh)
Tekken Chick a.k.a WDing mistress
For inspiring me to get off my lazy arse to finish this FAQ, without her I don't I would
have the drive to finish this. So Thank you so much TC ^_^
I would also like to thank all the people who made a contribution to this FAQ, thank you
all. Because without your help this FAQ wouldn't be complete.
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16) Version History
Version 3.0 - This FAQ was released on 7/30/01. Streamlined the juggle sections, fleshed out
the FAQ a bit more, minor spelling corrections, completed the Vs.Strategies.
Version 2.0 - This FAQ was released on 7/24/01. Minor updates, spelling corrections,
added tag juggles, finished the Strategies section.
Version 1.0 - First version of this FAQ was released on 7/18/01. Did most of the basic
Devil
Literally just HS and df12
Wang
Quick Wang Strategy Guide Version 3.0 11:41 PM 10/18/00 By: Robby Stone AKA Siroccoh Email: siroccoh@lanset.com Author's Note: I just wanted to make a quick Wang guide to help all of those poor confused souls out there who wonder why Namco went to the trouble of bringing back the old geezer from the depths of Tekken 2. I will not be going over every move in his arsenal, since I realize that this is suppossed to be a QUICK reference guide, but rather only go over the moves that Wang should use to to not get his ass beaten. There will be no explanations about the gamesystem here, no conventions. As you can see I designed this to be as compact and to the point as possible, as well as it being designed for the above-average player who wants to learn about a no to little risk fighting style with Wang. I'm also willing to revise this if I find out some more stuff from you other Wang users out there, so don't be afraid to tell me off about my guide here or give me any advice. I'm willing to listen and I will be happy to respond to your comments. Disclaimer Notice: Don't go off posting this anywhere without my written consent, don't go off publishing this anywhere and not giving me credit. You can print this off for personal use if you wish, but don't go around selling it, since I didn't make this for some lazy-ass bum to go around printing off my hard work to make a buck or two. Hell, if anyone should be getting paid for this FAQ, it damn-well better be me. Overall, just don't do anything that would be known as plagarism. If you'd like to take something out of this FAQ for one of your own, just be sure to state your source in HMLA format (ok, you don't have to worry about the HMLA thing). Revisions to Version 3.0: Added in 4,4 special move analysis and added some more follow-ups for his side throw which can be tagged off of. Also added another paragraph in the "Slapping People Around With Your Wang" section describing Wang's major weakness and what you may be able to do about it. Also corrected some deceiving information about db+2. Revisions to Version 2.0: I corrected the error about which side throw can be tagged off of, along with including another way of performing it that I forgot to include last time. Also added a few custom strings and juggles. f+4, db+4,2, 1, f+1+2 is Wang's most stylish juggle that I have yet to see. Also threw in some new advice in the 'Slapping People Around With Your Wang' section. -- Table of Contents -- - Wang's Basic Moves - Wang's Throws - Wang's Special Moves - Wang's Juggles - Slapping People Around With Your Wang - Credits - My Personal Info -- Wang's Basic Moves -- --> 1 8 frames. Leads into G-Clef Cannon, which juggles on CH. No frame disadvantage. Follow-ups: - Just about any other move listed in this FAQ, except for df+1+2 and db+2. --> 2 10 frames. Twice as much damage as 1, and gives more advantage on contact. Follow-ups: - a buffered df,DF+2+4 - 1 - d+1 --> 4 10 frame kick execution! Floats on CH, which can be followed up with f+2 for easy damage (and is the only time when f+2 should be used). Follow-ups: - 1 - df+4 - f+2 (on CH) --> d+1 Standard ducking jab with 8 frame execution, no recovery, basically used for interrupts. Follow-ups: - FC+1 - WS+1 - FC,df+4 - cc, 1 --> df+4 Hits mid, 12 frame execution, good distance, good recovery, even better recovery on contact or CH. Follow-ups: - 1 - d+1 - db+4 - QCF+2 (on contact) --> WS+1 This move is quick, is the only WS move Wang has that doesn't leave him in complete disadvantage when blocked, but it does lack range, so make very sure not to whiff this move, that is unless you like getting WGF'ed to death. Follow-ups: - 1 - d+1 - df+4 - db+4 -- Wang's Throws -- --> df,DF+2+4 If you want to be a good Wang user (heheh), you HAVE TO get this motion down. Hands down, this is Wang's absolute best throw, let alone probably the best throw in the game. Double button escape, the best range of any of Wang's throws, insanely mad follow-ups, can be tagged off of (hence the insane follow-ups), looks totally cool (this move is so funny to see as the finishing move of the round), and just reeks of absolute intimidation towards your opponent. Also, even when you screw up on the motion, most of the time you'll perform his normal 2+4 throw anyways, which isn't that bad either, due to the position that that throw puts your opponent in. If you don't believe me about the power of this throw, go read Peter Hahn's excellent Waning Moon FAQ (yes, this move is so good it got a FAQ of its own). Follow-ups: - Too many to mention, see Han's Waning Moon FAQ --> Opponent's Right Side, 1+3_2+4_2+5 This side throw is also extremely powerful due to some of the really great tag-in follow- ups you can perform. Otherwise it is just a normal side throw, with a single button escape, and I'm pretty sure it does something like 40 damage. Follow-ups: - Tag-in with other character, experiment - Anna or Nina: d+3+4 - Ganryu or Jacks: uf+3+4 - King or A. King: Ground Throw - Kuma/Panda: ff+2~5, ff,N+4<--(Wang tag-in slide) or 1+2~f, 3+4 - P. Jack: b,db,d,df+1~5, ff,N+4<--(Wang tag-in slide) or df+1+2 or U - Yoshi: 1+2 or uf+3+4 - Kuni: uf+3+4 or d+3+4 - Ogre: ff+1+2 - T. Ogre: df+1+2 or d+3+4 or ff+1+2 - Xaioyu: df+2~1~5, ff,N+4<--(Wang tag-in slide) - Lei: uf+2, FU/FA 3 - Pretty Much Anyone: ff,N+4<--(tag-in slide) -- Wang's Special Moves -- --> 1~1,1 Only use on CH (which happens a lot due to the fact that the first move in the string has only 8 frames of execution), as then it will be a guaranteed juggle, or else a good opponent will block the rest of the string and get you on guaranteed minor counters. Otherwise, if not on CH, just stop at the first 1. Follow-ups: - Juggle (on CH) - Tag Juggle (on CH)(if you have a strong juggling partner like Bruce or Hei) - 1 - d+1 - df,DF+2+4 - df+4 --> df+1+2 One of the most powerful okizeme moves in the game, damage-wise. Too bad it's really slow, so it isn't guaranteed after too many knockdown moves. The only time to use it is after a db+2 or CH db+4,2 juggle that leaves the opponent lying FD/FA on the ground. Otherwise don't bother. I've heard it is also guaranteed after a WS+4, but since the WS+4 has such shitty recovery, I don't really use that move too much, except when mixing it up with my crouch dash game or when it's guaranteed after a blocked SS+1+2. Follow-ups: - None --> SS+1+2 Can we say crazy guard stun? 27+ advantage on a blocked hit! As you can imagine there are some extremely kick-ass follow-ups to this move. Also causes stun on CH. Follow-ups: - QCF+2 - QCF+4 - ff, df,DF+2+4 --> QCF+2 Wang's Deathfist. Okay, so it doesn't do as much damage as Paul's, but it knocks the opponent backwards when blocked, it is basically all Wang has concerning power moves, and sets up a nice little charging game when it does hit. Only 13 frames, and is pretty safe to just stick out there. Follow-ups: - Charge! (when it connects) - 1 (when blocked) --> df+2,1 Much more useful for Wang than it is for the Changs, since Wang lacks quick, low recovery, juggling moves (plus the Changs can use 1~2~1 instead). Just don't try to use anything after you get this move blocked, otherwise you'll be eating jabs all day long. Instead just block. Mainly used as a minor counter retaliation move (this move is guaranteed after Julia's uf+4). Also this move has really good tracking, a thing that few of Wang's moves possess. Follow-ups: - Juggle (on contact) - B - b+1+3_b+2+4 --> db+2 The ONLY ONLY ONLY (did I put in enough ONLY's?) time to use this move is if your opponent is sloppy enough to whiff their attack. Definitely use it then, as there is a mad crazy juggle you can get after this connects. Oh yeah, and this is NOT guaranteed after a blocked or CH (you can escape the stun and block it) SS+1+2. Follow-ups: - Juggle (on contact) - b+1+3_b+2+4 - Pray (when blocked)(and no, Wang does not have a move where he prays ^_^) --> 4,4 This move is really fast and the second hit is low, so it makes for decent poking action. But don't even think of abusing this move nearly as much as most Julia/Michelle users because Wang can't link it off his sidestep like the Changs can (instead you'll get SS+4, which is a HORRID move -7 frames recovery on CONTACT, -20 if blocked). Also, this happens to be one of the more overabused moves I've seen (especially with the Changs), so you might get the second hit parried by the more aware opponents you'll face. As a rule I never use this move more than 3 times in a round (unless they don't know how to parry it). Follow-ups: - FC,df+4 - WS+4 - FC+1 --> FC,df+4 Don't even think about using the rest of this string, as it is horribly slow and Wang will usually miss the other character anyways. The FC,df+4 is Wang's sole FC SPECIAL move that actually has some benefit to it, so use it once in a while. But once again, I stress that you should not over-use this move, since you'll get low parried REAL FAST against good competition, and that is never a good thing. Follow-ups: - d+1 - WS+1 --> db+4<2 I usually only use this a FEW TIMES per round, and never follow through with the 2 part of the string unless I am TOTALLY certain that the db+4 part hit on CH. But when the db+4 does CH, follow through with the 2 to set up Wang's most powerful juggle. Note that you can delay this move just so slightly. Lastly, if you delay press a 5 until the last second after the lifting palm hits, you can do a tag juggle where the opponent will fall FD/FA, which creates some weird tag juggle opportunities. Follow-ups: - df+4 - 1 - d+1 - db+4 (If you really wanna piss em off, but watch out for low parries) --> f+4 Somewhat slow execution (yet it's deceiving at 17 frame execution), but great recovery, especially since it knocks the opponent back quite a bit and creates a guard stun. Also juggles if it connects. Follow-ups: - Juggle (on contact) - QCF+2 - QCF_ff, 1 - QCF, df,DF+2+4 - QCF, d+1 --> b+1+3_b+2+4 I have to say Wang's reversal is probably the best one in the game due to the fact that it can reverse all left punch attacks WITHOUT BEING CHICKENED!!!! That means whenever a Mishima comes in with 1,1<2 or a Chang throws out a 1~1,1_1~2,1 or Anna whips out an uf+1,3, you can reverse as long as you like. Wang can reverse certain double input commands that are left side chickened (such as Kuma's f+1+2) and still not get chickened. Follow-ups: - db+4 (also follow-up with the ,2 portion if opponent rolls) - d+4 (also follow-up with the ,1 portion if opponent rolls) --> df Learn when to use this move. And once you become proficient at recognizing low attacks from your opponent (especially in strings like Julia's 4,4) ALWAYS use the low parry. I can't remember the last time I blocked low instead of using df instead. It gives Wang so much advantage in his defensive game that this is a MUST to be able to do. Follow-ups: - uf+4 - df+2,1 -- Wang's Juggles -- db+2 and CH db+4,2 follow-ups: 1, db+4,2, df+1+2 (!) f+4, uf+4, and CH 1~1,1 follow-ups: db+4,2, 1, f+1+2 (!) 1, 1, d+4,1 (!) 1, 1, db+4,2 1, 1, 1, QCF+2 1, 1, 1, 1, f+1+2 D+2, FC,df+4,3 df+2,1 follow-ups: QCF+2 (!) f+1+2 f+2 ff, 1, d+4,1 ff, 1, db+4,2 CH 4 follow-ups: f+2 (!) QCF+2 f+1+2 CH SS+1+2 follow-ups: db+2, 1, db+4,2, df+1+2 (!) df,DF+2+4, fff, db+4,2, 1, db+4,2, df+1+2 (!) Class 1 Juggle Starter follow-ups: ub~b, SS+1+2, db+4,2 (!) UF+4, d+4,1 UF+4, 1, QCF+2 -- Slappin' People Around With Your Wang -- I have to say that Wang is probably one of the few characters who can be played as a "turtle" and compete against good players. Since Wang's strengths lie in CH'ing the opponent, low parrying, and using his reversal (at certain points), he truly does possess all of the weapons needed to establish a strong defensive game. Also remember to develop your SS game, as then you can get off Wang's rather effective side throws and SS+1+2. But that doesn't mean Wang can't turn on the offense either, since he does possess moves like 1, df+4, db+4, and SS+1+2, which are all extremely effective at frustrating your adversary and making them unsure at which height level you are going to attack at next. But I find that Wang isn't a very strong custom stringer, and tends to be one of the main reasons why people often over-look Wang as being a decent character. But if you need some customs, here's a few: 1, d+1, FC,df+4 1, ff+1, db+4, df,DF+2+4_df+2,1 1, df+4, QCF+2 1, SS+1+2 1, ff+1, ff+1, ff+1,....1~1,1 1, d+1, cc, 4 As you can tell, I'm not much of a custom stringer with Wang, so don't rely on these, unless you like losing as much money at the arcade as me. ^_^ Easily one of the most important parts of Wang's (and just about every other character's) fighting style is movement. You HAVE TO become comfortable with all of the movement options that Wang possesses. Besides the standard sidesteps and dashes (which you should be using practically all of the time), also mix it up with his QCF crouch dash. At the end of the QCF, don't become predictable and always end it with his Deathfist (QCF+2). Mix it up with db+4 at the end of the crouch-dash, or one of my personal favorites, the Waning Moon throw (df,DF+2+4). And whenever you SS a move, be sure to follow it up with a hopkick or side throw to punish your opponent. Believe me, when playing with such a frail old man, you need to aviod attacks instead of charging right into them. Never forget Wang's throwing game. He has probably the most powerful throw in the game with df,DF+2+4 when utilized correctly, and can completely turn the tables in your favor if you get this move to connect. It is highly suggested by me that you should read Hahn's Waning Moon FAQ for the best ways to set-up and follow-up Wang's Waning Moon throw. As for punishing whiffed moves (which happens quite often if you move around a lot), I mainly stick to using db+2 (and a highly damaging juggle) or if I'm too far out of range for the db+2, use the QCF+2 for a single strong strike that sends the opponent reeling and sets up a shoulder charge. For okizeme, I suggest sticking to using db+4, as it is really quick, and if you see the opponent rolling when you hit them with the db+4 the ,2 will hit as well, making for VERY good damage off of the ground. There are also a few situations where I use df+1+2 to hit a laying opponent, but not too often. If the opponent is doing a lot of tech-rolling, I will usually catch them with df+2,1 or df,DF+2+4 as they quick rise. Not much to it eh? The reason Wang isn't a top tier character mostly lies in the fact that he has the weakest durability of all the characters in the game and takes damage like the old man he is. Believe me when I say that you are at a great disadvantage when playing against normal to heavy-duty durability characters because a couple juggles will do Wang in rather quickly. That's kinda why it would be smart to pick someone durable as Wang's partner, but then again, don't completely learn a new durable character for Wang's partner just cause I said so. But his lack of durability is just another good reason why you should most definitely learn to move around and avoid attacks instead of getting hit by a WGF juggle that takes away all of your life. Also, there's the inherent taunting factor when using Wang. First off, the guys name is Wang. C'mon, I can think of just about half a dozen different rather funny comments I could say after winning a match with him. Plus he's an old man. Last, he's an old man named Wang. ^_^ I think you can get an idea of what I'm aiming at here. Oh yeah, and if you pick his costume where he doesn't wear that hat of his, Wang has to be easily one of the funniest looking people in any fighting game, let alone Tekken. As for picking a partner to compliment Wang, I really can't tell you who to play. That's your decision. But if you want a character who plays alot like Wang and is CH oriented, pick someone like Kuma or Julia. If you want an interesting familial team, pick Ling. If you need someone to take a beating while Wang is recovering on the sidelines, pick P. Jack or Ganryu. Hell, most characters work well with Wang. I really can't say who to use, but when I pick a partner for Wang, these are the questions I ask myself: Does he/she have good follow-ups after Waning Moon? Do I actually know how to use this character? Is this guy any fun to play with? I apologize if this doesn't help you out with picking a partner, but it's just about all I can advise. Sheesh, just have fun and pick the character you feel like using. -- Credits -- Ainvar: For inspiring me find a character that everyone else doesn't play, and to learn how to play a character with as little risk as possible. Castel and all of the staff on Tekken Zaibatsu (www.tekkenzaibatsu.com): For having one kick-ass site with all of the frame data that I'd ever need to find out what is guaranteed after what-else, and for having such an organized BBS. Oh yeah, and the Combo Exhibitions rock too! Peter Hahn: For making that completely awesome FAQ on the Waning Moon! Keep up the good work! The Game Room: For being the place where I almost always go to play Tekken. 25 cent continues own all! All the Good Comp at Birdcage Game Room: You guys always seem to find something new to impress me with, hopefully I've done the same for you guys as well. -- My Personal Info -- My name is Robby Stone for all of you people who couldn't read my name in the title, and I happen to live in the Sacramento area. On the internet, I go by the alias of Siroccoh. I'm about 6' tall, caucasian, skinny, and I don't tend to pick any specific characters all of the time. I suck gameplay-wise (due to the fact that I only have about a year of true experience under my belt), but I have enough observation skills and time on my hands to figure out most of the little intracacies that make up Tekken, and am always happy to learn new tricks that I haven't seen before. As mentioned before, I frequent The Game Room (actually there's two of them, one in Folsom and one in Citrus Heights, the Citrus Heights one has better comp) and if you're ever in the Sacramento area, be sure to drop on by one of The Game Rooms, maybe you'll see me there. NOW FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO HAVE READ THIS FAR....... The ultimate key to winning in Tekken is........practice....and good competition. Hope I inspired you. ;P